., including something like a carbon tax for example which would achieve some of his energy goal simply not possible. you can't do it in a short time frame. so i think there are practical questions to that. but i don't think there's a principal objection to it if you somehow combined it with the existing system that in a way that reserved the distribution of the tax burden. he doesn't want to go backward on progressivity. and i think if you can meet those tests, that's part of help saying he's open to it. they've always been skeptical that you can did all these things. spi entitlement reform, deficit reduction and tax reform in anything close to the same time frame. >> all right, john, thank you. one more thing -- becky, i'm afraid to tell you this. fi phil lebeau, he knows everything about -- the last major -- >> i saw that. >> last major airline crash in the u.s. with fatalities was the one which was right after 9/11. >> horrific. >> in new york and right after 9/11. november of 2001. >> there was a 60 minutes piece on that neighborhood because that neighborhood just got swamped again